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Post by incantos on Jul 29, 2011 21:20:37 GMT -5
Explanation The Emperor: The Emperor is the absolute monarch of the kingdom. His word is law and no one may overturn it. He has the ultimate veto over any decision the Senate decides to make. He always has the final word on the Senate. The Four Houses: These houses aid the Emperor to rule his Empire aiding him in his finances, in his army, in keeping the peace, and in the religion of the land. These houses are extremely powerful in many ways and are the backbone of the Empire. These are normally the nobles and any Dux or Baron must be part of these families, unless the Emperor makes an exception. Imperial Senate: The Imperial Senate is composed of five parts. The first four are the Four Houses and the fifth being the chosen Senators by the Dux/Duxess or Baron. The Senate is divided into three councils that help it rule. The Senate itself makes laws and discusses them. They also talk about the issues of the Empire. The Emperor sits in the middle of the Senate and he always has the final word on everything. Council of Justice: This council is chosen by the Senate and mostly consists of the House of Aequitheon. They come up with ideas of laws and bring it to the Senate so they may vote on it and discuss it. Also, they have the task of appointing Judges who are the ones to consult when there’s confusion about the Laws. These are mainly appointed to cities. Council of Order: This council is chosen by the Senate and also consists of the House of Aequitheon. They make sure that the peace remains and appoint Captain of the Guards on Municipal levels. Council of War: This council is chosen by the Senate and mostly consists of the House of Tarensius. They are the ones that discuss of military strategies and anything that has to do with foreign military affairs. Dux/Duxess: This is a noble, normally appointed by the Emperor, that rules over a province. He/she makes all the decisions in the province. He/she also appoints Senators to attend to the Imperial Senate. The Dux/Duxess may take part in Senate meetings, but he/she must abide to its rulings. This may be overturned by the Emporer. Senator: Senators must be humans and mustn’t use magic. Captain of the Guard: The Captain of the Guard must keep the peace in the appointed city and must keep control of the guards that he/she enrolls. He/she has –no- say in the decisions of the Patrician. Patrician: He is the leader of a big city, named by the Dux/Duxess. He appoints Prefects. Council of Prefects: This council aids the Patrician with his city. Prefect: A prefect is a named leader of a district in a town. All the prefects answer to the Patrician. Subject: Just an unimportant bitch. Tell me what you think! ^^
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Post by Nezgul on Jul 30, 2011 7:53:24 GMT -5
I like it, but there's one important organization missing -- the Inquisition. It'd be below the Emperor, but above all four of the houses (since it's, essentially, The Empire's version of the Schutzstaffel.)
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Post by incantos on Jul 30, 2011 8:06:29 GMT -5
Weeell, I never read there -was- an Inquisition. Please give me some info so I know how to explain and all.
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Post by Nezgul on Jul 30, 2011 8:11:52 GMT -5
Oh! My mistake, then. Basically, it's a tribunal headed by the Emperor himself, tasked with ensuring loyalty and obedience from Provinces/Districts/*INSERTREGIONNAMEHERE*. And they basically have the rights to do whatever they want to ensure that their job is done, and that includes various forms of torture and murder. If you've ever played Warhammer40k, think the Inquisition from that. If you haven't, think the SS from Nazi Germany. Or, to a much lesser extent, the Templars from DA2.
But yes. This entire bit is actually pretty good. :3
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Post by Celvantis on Jul 30, 2011 13:12:04 GMT -5
Two things, Both pretty petty on my end.
The Emperor can't rule a kingdom by definition, Its a empire, the two terms are not used interchangable, as Royal And King, Imperial and Emperor and noble are all very seperate levels and can be seen as a great insult to confuse them.
The second point is are the posts (Economy minister) hereditary to the house? If it is, I feel its a bad move on the emperors part as it breeds to much power under him and not enough loyalty with nothing to maintain really. if its not I withdraw and apologize.
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Post by incantos on Jul 30, 2011 15:40:31 GMT -5
I will fix it when I regain my energies, sorry for that. And have you seen Game of Thrones? These are families that from father to child created their reputation. By creating a reputation, they gained power and so to please them, the Emperor had to give them significant power. What's their powers? They have seats reserved for them in the Senate and have a higher chance of becoming a government member that is related to their reputation.
I also don't get what you mean with the Emperor thing... Sorry! D:
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Post by Celvantis on Jul 30, 2011 16:30:36 GMT -5
No King, No Queen, No Emperors seat is ever 100% stable. The biggest threat is being chucked off for another legitmate ruler and nobles are -THE WORST- for this. There loyalty changes as who can promise them more. Giving them unchecked power, that owes nothing to the monarch is dangerous in that they dont need you anymore. The answer is keep them dependant in that, EVERYTHING can be taken away, all positions must be earned and keep them fighting eachother or earning favour in petty ways. The best example is the french court where the King kept them busy with very long dressing rituals that kept them begging to give the king his hanky then plottting.
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Post by incantos on Jul 30, 2011 16:52:34 GMT -5
I get it, but it's an empire. They told me that it's based off the Roman Empire. The Emperor constantly fell and got backstabbed, but some got to live for a very long time and had a good grasp of the Empire.
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Post by Celvantis on Jul 30, 2011 17:04:52 GMT -5
They did that by keeping "The mob" the peasent mass entertained and the nobles on side by making sure they have enough control and respect from the nobles, The senate caused way more trouble then the mob did. (Not to say they didnt.) Keeping the nobles in check is how they survived so long as well as the mob entertained, as alot of the time it was the senate who did indeed backstab the emperor and did so on many occasions as the emperor didnt have enough control over them and they gathered a powerbase in the mean time and allies.
A government system needs to take into account nobles are not noble, there weasals
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Post by incantos on Jul 30, 2011 17:21:10 GMT -5
I know about the Senate. You have an Inquisition over it and all... I don't understand what's your suggestion for the system...
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Post by Celvantis on Jul 30, 2011 17:23:43 GMT -5
This is all pretty much stemed the question on from heriditary offices for nobles (Economy minster, e.g)
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Post by Nezgul on Jul 30, 2011 17:23:45 GMT -5
To be fair, the Inquisition could be seen as a check against the nobility. An -incredibly- powerful tribunal that can do just about whatever it damn well pleases is an -amazing- weapon against cocky nobility. That said, I don't think the Imperial nobility is as big a threat to the Emperor as they would be if they were in, say, a real country like France or Germany.
Really, I think the nobility's affect on the Emperor's position of power would be a topic best saved for later. Possibly when the Emperor's position is elaborated on, which -needs- to be detailed a tad. At best there is information available saying "Hey, this guy rules the Empire, but his name isn't public and we have no idea how he came into power, be it via a line of succession or a vote or whatever." (No offense intended towards Kristy.)
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Post by Celvantis on Jul 30, 2011 17:26:05 GMT -5
The above is very true but the first post is a very good effort. I like pictures.
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Post by incantos on Jul 30, 2011 18:10:28 GMT -5
I finsihed it, I had to cramp it in due to Word being a whore.... I just need someone to put it on photobucket and we're off!
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Post by Nezgul on Jul 31, 2011 9:13:35 GMT -5
Could always make a photobucket account and throw it up there, rather than wait for someone else :3 Or, hell, if you have a Yahoo account, Flickr would suffice.
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